[{"data":1,"prerenderedAt":710},["ShallowReactive",2],{"buffett-ba-fei-te-2025nian-jie-shou-cbscai-fang":3},{"id":4,"title":5,"body":6,"category":698,"description":699,"extension":700,"meta":701,"navigation":702,"order":703,"path":704,"seo":705,"seoDescription":699,"seoTitle":706,"slug":707,"stem":708,"__hash__":709},"buffett\u002Fbuffett\u002Finterview\u002Fba-fei-te-2025nian-jie-shou-cbscai-fang.md","巴菲特：2025年接受cbs采访",{"type":7,"value":8,"toc":695},"minimark",[9,13,21,29,35,38,41,46,49,54,57,61,64,67,70,73,76,80,83,86,89,92,95,98,103,106,110,113,116,119,122,125,129,132,135,138,142,145,148,152,155,159,162,165,168,171,174,177,180,183,186,190,193,197,200,204,207,211,214,217,220,223,227,230,233,236,240,243,247,250,253,256,259,262,265,268,271,274,277,281,284,288,291,294,297,300,303,306,310,313,317,320,323,327,330,333,336,340,343,347,350,353,356,360,363,366,369,372,375,378,382,385,389,392,396,399,402,405,408,412,415,418,421,424,427,431,434,437,440,443,446,450,453,456,461,464,468,471,474,477,480,484,487,491,494,497,500,504,507,511,514,517,521,524,528,531,534,537,541,544,547,550,553,557,560,563,567,570,573,577,580,583,586,589,592,595,599,602,606,609,613,616,620,623,627,630,634,637,641,644,648,651,654,657,660,663,666,669,672,675,678,681,684,687,690,693],[10,11,5],"h1",{"id":12},"巴菲特2025年接受cbs采访",[14,15,16],"p",{},[17,18],"img",{"alt":19,"src":20},"","images\u002Fimage_1496599966893903179.png",[14,22,23,24,28],{},"他被称为“奥马哈的先知”，著名投资人",[25,26,27],"strong",{},"沃伦·巴菲特正在与诺拉·奥唐奈","谈论一部关于一段颇为意外的友谊的新纪录片《成为凯瑟琳·格雷厄姆》。",[14,30,31,34],{},[25,32,33],{},"沃伦·巴菲特","：",[14,36,37],{},"如果有什么故事值得被讲述，那应该是她的故事。",[14,39,40],{},"如果我是个年轻女孩，我会想听那个故事，它会改变我对自己的看法。",[14,42,43,34],{},[25,44,45],{},"旁白",[14,47,48],{},"沃伦·巴菲特很少接受采访，但同样罕见的是他与已故《华盛顿邮报》开创性出版人凯瑟琳·格雷厄姆的友谊。",[14,50,51,34],{},[25,52,53],{},"诺拉·奥唐奈",[14,55,56],{},"为什么你想谈论凯瑟琳·格雷厄姆？",[14,58,59,34],{},[25,60,33],{},[14,62,63],{},"她是独一无二的，她对这份工作感到害怕。",[14,65,66],{},"她知道自己能做事，但她一生都被告知她不行，女性不能做事。",[14,68,69],{},"她母亲告诉她，没人愿意听你讲话。",[14,71,72],{},"然后突然之间，她站在那里，她面前是一个全是男性的董事会，",[14,74,75],{},"他们只希望她待在家里收股息支票。",[14,77,78,34],{},[25,79,45],{},[14,81,82],{},"格雷厄姆被推上了公司掌门人的位置，在丈夫菲利普·格雷厄姆自杀后接管了公司。",[14,84,85],{},"她随后站在了世纪重大新闻事件的中心。",[14,87,88],{},"今天，被广泛讨论但仍属机密的五角大楼文件被交给了国会。",[14,90,91],{},"她做出了发表五角大楼文件的决定，这一决定帮助终结了越南战争。",[14,93,94],{},"五名带着窃听设备的男子在水门大厦的民主党总部被发现。",[14,96,97],{},"正是凯瑟琳·格雷厄姆支持了调查性新闻报道，最终导致尼克松总统因水门事件辞职。",[14,99,100,34],{},[25,101,102],{},"尼克松总统",[14,104,105],{},"明天中午起，我将辞去总统职务。",[14,107,108,34],{},[25,109,33],{},[14,111,112],{},"那真是段非凡的时光。",[14,114,115],{},"一切，所有一切。",[14,117,118],{},"而她一直被灌输的观念是，只有男性才能在商界取得成功。",[14,120,121],{},"女性面临的最糟糕障碍就是自我设限。",[14,123,124],{},"如果你从小就把自己当作二等公民，你往往会不断贬低自己。",[14,126,127,34],{},[25,128,45],{},[14,130,131],{},"格雷厄姆从家庭主妇到财富500强公司首位女性CEO的历程，",[14,133,134],{},"在一部名为《成为凯瑟琳·格雷厄姆》的新纪录片中得以展现，",[14,136,137],{},"该片现已在Amazon Prime上线。",[14,139,140,34],{},[25,141,33],{},[14,143,144],{},"我说，格雷厄姆夫人，你完全掌控这家公司，",[14,146,147],{},"但你仍然担心我。",[14,149,150,34],{},[25,151,45],{},[14,153,154],{},"故事的中心是一段始于1973年6月4日的意外友谊。",[14,156,157,34],{},[25,158,33],{},[14,160,161],{},"啊，这封信，就是那封著名的信。",[14,163,164],{},"那封著名的信。",[14,166,167],{},"我在购买了大量《华盛顿邮报》公司股票后，给格雷厄姆写了一封信。",[14,169,170],{},"我说，除非你亲自同意，我绝不会再买一股股票，",[14,172,173],{},"我还签署了文件。",[14,175,176],{},"我们成了朋友。",[14,178,179],{},"我过去常带着大约20份年报来参加董事会，",[14,181,182],{},"然后带我一起研究这些年报，",[14,184,185],{},"那感觉就像在和沃伦·巴菲特一起上商学院。",[14,187,188,34],{},[25,189,53],{},[14,191,192],{},"你当初为什么投资《华盛顿邮报》？",[14,194,195,34],{},[25,196,33],{},[14,198,199],{},"哦，它的股价便宜得离谱。",[14,201,202,34],{},[25,203,53],{},[14,205,206],{},"你发现了个便宜货？",[14,208,209,34],{},[25,210,33],{},[14,212,213],{},"超级便宜。",[14,215,216],{},"它至少值5亿美元，却只卖1亿美元。",[14,218,219],{},"她真是太幸运了，",[14,221,222],{},"幸好我们的股价跌得那么低，才吸引了沃伦的注意。",[14,224,225,34],{},[25,226,45],{},[14,228,229],{},"1973年，唐·格雷厄姆是凯瑟琳的儿子，也是前《邮报》出版人。",[14,231,232],{},"唐·格雷厄姆说，沃伦·巴菲特是凯瑟琳·格雷厄姆商业生涯中最伟大的幸运。",[14,234,235],{},"她需要有人来给予她信心。",[14,237,238,34],{},[25,239,53],{},[14,241,242],{},"你都会说些什么来增强她的信心？",[14,244,245,34],{},[25,246,33],{},[14,248,249],{},"最重要的一点是，",[14,251,252],{},"我说，当你看镜子时，",[14,254,255],{},"你其实是在看哈哈镜，",[14,257,258],{},"因为你看到的是男性告诉你的样子。",[14,260,261],{},"我的任务就是把那个哈哈镜变成普通镜子。",[14,263,264],{},"她知道我站在她这边，",[14,266,267],{},"我非常钦佩她，",[14,269,270],{},"但她却不断折磨自己，",[14,272,273],{},"她控制不住。",[14,275,276],{},"尼克松至死都痛恨《邮报》和我们本人。",[14,278,279,34],{},[25,280,45],{},[14,282,283],{},"这部纪录片首次向公众展示了尼克松总统与凯瑟琳·格雷厄姆之间恩怨的全貌。",[14,285,286,34],{},[25,287,102],{},[14,289,290],{},"昨晚我在电视上看见她了，格雷厄姆夫人，",[14,292,293],{},"我还以为她85岁了，",[14,295,296],{},"她好像才57岁左右吧。",[14,298,299],{},"哦不，我知道，她老得太可怕了。",[14,301,302],{},"她是个可怕的老太婆。",[14,304,305],{},"她在我看来是个老……",[14,307,308,34],{},[25,309,53],{},[14,311,312],{},"她有谈起面对这种性别歧视和总统本人的侮辱吗？",[14,314,315,34],{},[25,316,33],{},[14,318,319],{},"哦，尼克松一点都吓不到她。",[14,321,322],{},"真正让她害怕的是丢掉《华盛顿邮报》的念头。",[14,324,325,34],{},[25,326,45],{},[14,328,329],{},"1975年，印刷工人毁坏印刷机并发起长达四个多月的激烈罢工，",[14,331,332],{},"导致报纸发行受限，",[14,334,335],{},"那是格雷厄姆最真实感受到这种威胁的时候。",[14,337,338,34],{},[25,339,53],{},[14,341,342],{},"那段时期有多艰难？",[14,344,345,34],{},[25,346,33],{},[14,348,349],{},"哦，那让她心力交瘁。",[14,351,352],{},"她在那段时间受的苦，比水门事件或五角大楼文件时期还严重。",[14,354,355],{},"她觉得自己可能搞砸了一切。",[14,357,358,34],{},[25,359,33],{},[14,361,362],{},"凯瑟琳·格雷厄姆之所以成功，是因为她勇敢。",[14,364,365],{},"正因如此，《华盛顿邮报》公司在她担任出版人期间股价上涨超过3000%。",[14,367,368],{},"但她不只是帮我赚了很多钱。",[14,370,371],{},"她说，她对沃伦的影响主要在生活方式上。",[14,373,374],{},"她让我意识到，",[14,376,377],{},"长期吃快餐和喝樱桃可乐可能不是最佳选择。",[14,379,380,34],{},[25,381,33],{},[14,383,384],{},"是啊，但她没能说服我。",[14,386,387,34],{},[25,388,53],{},[14,390,391],{},"你最喜欢的食物是？",[14,393,394,34],{},[25,395,33],{},[14,397,398],{},"就是我六岁时吃的那些，",[14,400,401],{},"热狗、汉堡、可乐和圣代冰淇淋。",[14,403,404],{},"我最爱的是根汁汽水漂浮冰淇淋。",[14,406,407],{},"我经常晚餐只吃根汁汽水漂浮冰淇淋。",[14,409,410,34],{},[25,411,53],{},[14,413,414],{},"你去凯瑟琳·格雷厄姆家吃饭，",[14,416,417],{},"她家很豪华，",[14,419,420],{},"还有法国大厨。",[14,422,423],{},"他们给你端上龙虾，",[14,425,426],{},"你怎么处理龙虾的？",[14,428,429,34],{},[25,430,33],{},[14,432,433],{},"呃，我不小心从错误的一侧下手了。",[14,435,436],{},"她本来很不愿批评我，",[14,438,439],{},"但最后还是说了句，",[14,441,442],{},"“或许你可以试试别的方式？”",[14,444,445],{},"我对龙虾哪懂啊。",[14,447,448,34],{},[25,449,45],{},[14,451,452],{},"格雷厄姆于2001年去世，",[14,454,455],{},"巴菲特在她的葬礼上担任引导员。",[14,457,458,460],{},[25,459,33],{},"：（看着照片）",[14,462,463],{},"那是一张好照片。",[14,465,466,34],{},[25,467,45],{},[14,469,470],{},"至于“奥马哈的先知”，",[14,472,473],{},"这位传奇投资人如今94岁，",[14,475,476],{},"仍然是伯克希尔·哈撒韦的董事长，",[14,478,479],{},"他说的每一句话依然能够撼动金融市场。",[14,481,482,34],{},[25,483,53],{},[14,485,486],{},"我能问你几个关于当前经济形势的问题吗？",[14,488,489,34],{},[25,490,33],{},[14,492,493],{},"哦，我觉得那是世界上最有趣的话题，",[14,495,496],{},"但我现在不能谈，",[14,498,499],{},"我真的不能。",[14,501,502,34],{},[25,503,53],{},[14,505,506],{},"你认为关税会如何影响经济？",[14,508,509,34],{},[25,510,33],{},[14,512,513],{},"关税其实……我们对此有很多经验，",[14,515,516],{},"它们在某种程度上是一种战争。",[14,518,519,34],{},[25,520,53],{},[14,522,523],{},"你认为关税会如何随着时间推移影响通货膨胀？",[14,525,526,34],{},[25,527,33],{},[14,529,530],{},"关税就是对商品征税。",[14,532,533],{},"牙仙是不会来替你付钱的。",[14,535,536],{},"你总要问那个经济学上的问题：“然后呢？”",[14,538,539,34],{},[25,540,53],{},[14,542,543],{},"那这个问题有答案吗？",[14,545,546],{},"人们都在说，通货膨胀持续，",[14,548,549],{},"消费品价格不断上涨，",[14,551,552],{},"终点到底在哪？",[14,554,555,34],{},[25,556,33],{},[14,558,559],{},"10年后、20年后、30年后，",[14,561,562],{},"价格都会比现在更高。",[14,564,565,34],{},[25,566,53],{},[14,568,569],{},"那你怎么看华盛顿目前的情况？",[14,571,572],{},"关于努力应对……",[14,574,575,34],{},[25,576,33],{},[14,578,579],{},"我觉得嘛，华盛顿就是华盛顿。",[14,581,582],{},"技术在改变很多事情，",[14,584,585],{},"各种事情都在变化，",[14,587,588],{},"但华盛顿还是华盛顿。",[14,590,591],{},"政治的问题在于，",[14,593,594],{},"你一路上总是得做出小小的妥协。",[14,596,597,34],{},[25,598,53],{},[14,600,601],{},"那你怎么看埃隆·马斯克的削减成本计划？",[14,603,604,34],{},[25,605,33],{},[14,607,608],{},"哦，我最好别谈这个了。",[14,610,611,34],{},[25,612,53],{},[14,614,615],{},"你有和他聊过吗？",[14,617,618,34],{},[25,619,33],{},[14,621,622],{},"我和埃隆聊过几次。",[14,624,625,34],{},[25,626,53],{},[14,628,629],{},"对他最近在华盛顿的行动有什么看法吗？",[14,631,632,34],{},[25,633,33],{},[14,635,636],{},"没有。",[14,638,639,34],{},[25,640,53],{},[14,642,643],{},"你一直看好美国公司。你管理的资金大部分都会投资在美国。为什么？",[14,645,646,34],{},[25,647,33],{},[14,649,650],{},"因为这里是最好的地方。我很幸运出生在这里。",[14,652,653],{},"（全）",[14,655,656],{},"后续更新：CBS Sunday Morning 在4月17日又放出了一小部分后续采访：",[14,658,659],{},"主持人：巴菲特，关于凯（凯瑟琳·格雷厄姆），你最喜欢的回忆是什么？",[14,661,662],{},"巴菲特：嗯，我会说其中之一是她的那本书获得出版商认可的时候。她为了那本书努力了五年，梅格·格林菲尔德，还有其他人都尽力帮她，但你知道，书最终还是得自己写。而且——那本书真的非常有意思，是一本非常坦率的书。我从没遇到过有人读完那本书后感到失望。那本书令人惊叹。而且写那本书对她来说很艰难。",[14,664,665],{},"主持人：你会说凯瑟琳·格雷厄姆是你的英雄之一吗？",[14,667,668],{},"巴菲特：哦，当然。在那种环境下做她所做的事情，她不依赖任何人。世上有各种各样的英雄，比如911事件中的消防员，但她确实是一种特别的英雄——一种女性式的英雄主义。虽然她不太把自己当作女性的代表，这让她有点不自在。但无论她是否愿意，她就处在那个位置上。",[14,670,671],{},"主持人：她信任你，并向你倾诉许多事情？",[14,673,674],{},"巴菲特：是的，她信任我。",[14,676,677],{},"主持人：我们已经谈了很多关于凯瑟琳·格雷厄姆的传奇故事，但我想知道，你愿不愿意谈谈你自己的传奇？",[14,679,680],{},"巴菲特（笑）：我的传奇是……是扑克牌，我的传奇是布雷牌（Bure，一种扑克游戏）。",[14,682,683],{},"主持人：你觉得自己幸运吗？",[14,685,686],{},"巴菲特：我太幸运了，简直难以置信，当然了。",[14,688,689],{},"主持人：你有后悔的事吗？",[14,691,692],{},"巴菲特：每个人都有后悔的事。是的，每个人都有。你可以生来聪明，但你也可以生得更聪明。不过，没有人生来就是有智慧的。",[14,694,653],{},{"title":19,"searchDepth":696,"depth":696,"links":697},2,[],"访谈与文章","巴菲特接受CBS专访，谈论纪录片《成为凯瑟琳·格雷厄姆》，分享其与《华盛顿邮报》前发行人凯瑟琳·格雷厄姆的意外友谊。","md",{},true,142,"\u002Fbuffett\u002Finterview\u002Fba-fei-te-2025nian-jie-shou-cbscai-fang",{"title":5,"description":699},"巴菲特：2025年接受cbs采访｜巴菲特","ba-fei-te-2025nian-jie-shou-cbscai-fang","buffett\u002Finterview\u002Fba-fei-te-2025nian-jie-shou-cbscai-fang","zM72XYkd7Z-7lFjnrYKk7eKzXNl5DU-t_94548cwiQc",1778061725024]