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买股票就是买未来现金流",[45,68,69],{},[17,70,71,72,74,76,77,79,80,82],{},"\"买股票就是买公司，买公司就是买其未来",[20,73,5],{"href":22},[20,75,34],{"href":33},"。这里",[20,78,5],{"href":22},"指的是净",[20,81,5],{"href":22},"，未来指的是公司的整个生命周期，不是3年，也不是5年。\"",[45,84,85],{},[17,86,87,88,92,93,95,96,98,52],{},"\"从",[20,89,91],{"href":90},"\u002Fdao\u002Fzuoduideshiqing","做对的事情","的角度讲，投资里",[20,94,91],{"href":90},"就是:买股票就是买公司，就是买公司的生意，就是买公司未来的净",[20,97,5],{"href":22},[20,99,34],{"href":33},[63,101,103],{"id":102},"_2-未来现金流折现是思维方式不是计算公式","2. 未来现金流折现是思维方式，不是计算公式",[45,105,106],{},[17,107,108,109,111,113],{},"\"所谓未来",[20,110,5],{"href":22},[20,112,34],{"href":33},"只是个思维方式，千万不要去套公式，因为没人可以真的确定公式中的变量，所有假设可能都是不靠谱的。\"",[45,115,116],{},[17,117,118,119,121,123,124,128],{},"\"未来",[20,120,5],{"href":22},[20,122,34],{"href":33},"只是一种思维方式，只有在自己",[20,125,127],{"href":126},"\u002Fdao\u002Fnengliquan","能力圈","范围内的公司，投资人才能毛估估看明白。没人真用公式的，至少胜者都是不用公式的。（说自己有公式还有参数的人们都是不懂甚至可能是骗人的，别理他们。）\"",[63,130,132],{"id":131},"_3-看懂现金流就是看懂公司","3. 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