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大家好，我是亚利桑那州立大学的教授杰夫·坎宁安。今天上午，我有幸邀请到了传奇投资人、思想家以及伯克希尔·哈撒韦公司的首席执行官沃伦·巴菲特。早上好，沃伦！",[18,26,27,30],{},[21,28,29],{},"沃伦·巴菲特："," 早上好！",[18,32,33,35],{},[21,34,23],{}," 我的第一个问题是，我不知道您是否有过谷歌自己的经历，但如果在谷歌上搜索“沃伦·巴菲特”，会得到2500万个搜索结果。您身为在任首席执行官，财富堪比迈达斯（希腊神话中点石成金的国王），却依然广受众人喜爱，您是如何做到的？",[18,37,38,40],{},[21,39,29],{}," 其实我也不确定原因。我觉得人年纪大了，大家就会原谅很多事情。要是我能活到乔治·伯恩斯（美国著名喜剧演员，长寿明星）那个年纪，嘴里叼着雪茄，估计大家会更爱我吧。",[18,42,43,45],{},[21,44,23],{}," 您可以说是历史上接受采访最多的首席执行官了。您出色的沟通能力是与生俱来的，还是后天习得的？",[18,47,48,50],{},[21,49,29],{}," 公开演讲的能力肯定是后天学会的。我高中时特别害怕公开演讲，会刻意避开所有需要演讲的课程，大学时也是如此。后来毕业走出校门，我意识到必须学会与人沟通，于是花了100美元报名参加了戴尔·卡耐基课程。我还在课程期间向妻子求婚了，所以这笔钱花得太值了。不过公开演讲这件事，我确实是逼着自己去做的。但说到私下交流，从上学那会儿起我就滔滔不绝，我一直都很喜欢与人交谈。",[18,52,53,55],{},[21,54,23],{}," 在这个信息爆炸的世界里，您是如何跟上海量媒体信息的？对于伯克希尔·哈撒韦而言，您的日常是怎样的？",[18,57,58,60],{},[21,59,29],{}," 我就是不停地阅读，每天大概会读五到六个小时。现在阅读速度不如年轻时快了，但我每天会读五份日报，还会读不少杂志、10-K报表（美国证券交易委员会要求上市公司提交的年度财务报告）、年度报告，以及其他各类读物。我一直很享受阅读的过程，比如我特别喜欢读传记。",[18,62,63,65],{},[21,64,23],{}," 您处理信息的速度非常快。",[18,67,68,70],{},[21,69,29],{}," 我的脑子里有一些筛选标准。如果有人跟我谈商业投资或证券投资，我通常两三分钟内就能判断出自己是否感兴趣，对于不感兴趣的，我不会浪费任何时间。不过我也会有点担心，这样会不会显得太无礼，但我确实能很快分辨出这件事是否有后续价值，还是只是半小时、一小时甚至两小时的无意义闲聊。",[18,72,73,75],{},[21,74,23],{}," 我记得您在2009年的一份年度报告中提到过国家和经济，其中有句话是“例如，我们可以肯定的是，今年全年经济都将陷入混乱”。但问题在于，这并非完整引述，这让人们觉得您对国家经济过于悲观，您当时是如何回应的？",[18,77,78,80],{},[21,79,29],{}," 其实我对国家一点也不悲观。事实上，在2008年10月，就在全球局势近乎崩溃的时候，我为《纽约时报》写过一篇专栏文章。我在文章中说，世界会经历一段艰难时期，但大家不必担心，我们终将渡过难关，还建议大家买入股票。我从来没有对美国感到过悲观。我11岁那年，也就是1942年春天，买了人生第一支股票。你们可能不记得了，现在看这段访谈的人应该都不记得了，但当时我们正处于战争失利的阶段，在南太平洋战场节节败退，菲律宾沦陷，还有巴丹死亡行军（二战期间日军强迫美军战俘进行的死亡行军）等一系列事件。直到后来的中途岛战役，局势才开始好转。但即便在那时，我依然对国家充满信心，而且从那以后一直都是如此。顺便说一句，当时道琼斯工业平均指数是117点。自1776年以来，从来没有人能通过看空美国获得成功，未来也不会有人能做到。",[18,82,83,85],{},[21,84,23],{}," 我知道当道琼斯指数突破1000点时，市场一片欢欣鼓舞，但如果我没记错的话，您当时不仅大举投入，还募集了更多资金。您是否有过觉得市场过于狂热的时刻？",[18,87,88,90],{},[21,89,29],{}," 在过去50年里，确实有过那么几次市场看起来过于狂热的情况。1999年我做过一次演讲，后来《财富》杂志转载了这篇演讲内容。有那么几次，我确实觉得人们变得过于兴奋，但即便在那时，我也知道，我们国家建立的任何里程碑，日后都会被超越，而如今这一点依然成立。美国才刚刚起步。前几天我看到林肯的一句名言：“有了公众的支持，万事可成；失去公众的支持，一事无成。”当然，他说这句话是为了推动《解放宣言》的颁布。",[18,92,93,95],{},[21,94,23],{}," 伯克希尔·哈撒韦及其子公司共有33万名员工，您如何向他们传达“始终处于媒体密切关注之下”这一信息？",[18,97,98,100],{},[21,99,29],{}," 我会把信息传达给他们的管理者。这33万名员工实际上为大约70位首席执行官工作，而这些首席执行官又向我汇报。所以我的工作就是让这70位首席执行官传递正确的理念。每两年，我会给他们写一封非常简短的信，只有一页半的篇幅。我不相信200页的手册，因为一旦手册太厚，大家基本上都会去寻找漏洞。但一页半的内容，他们很难对我的要求产生异议。我会告诉他们，我个人的声誉、伯克希尔的声誉都掌握在他们手中。我们已经拥有了足够多的财富，当然也希望能赚更多，但我们的声誉恰恰是弥足珍贵、不容有失的，所以我们绝不能为了金钱而出卖声誉。他们是声誉的守护者。我希望他们不仅要遵守法律，还要用一个简单的标准来衡量每一个行为：如果这件事被一位聪明但对我们略有敌意、且完全了解内情的记者登上当地报纸头版，让他们的家人、邻居和朋友看到，是否能经得起这样的检验。我还会告诉他们，“球场中央有足够多的钱可赚”，我已经84岁了，眼神不太好，看不清球场边界线，所以只要待在中央区域就好。如果他们有任何疑问，随时可以给我打电话。",[18,102,103,105],{},[21,104,23],{}," 伯克希尔偶尔出现的一些小风波都会成为大新闻。您愿意谈谈所罗门公司的案例吗？现在这已经成为历史，我们有足够的时间来反思。对于那些因类似情况而陷入媒体风口浪尖的首席执行官，您有什么建议？",[18,107,108,110],{},[21,109,29],{}," 关于这一点，我有几条建议。首先，一旦发现负面消息，要及时纠正；如果需要向有关部门报告，就立即上报。所罗门公司的核心问题不在于一个名叫莫泽（Moser）的人违抗美国政府——虽然这从来都不是一个好主意，但这件事本身是可以处理的——而在于他的行为没有被上报。1991年4月下旬，他的上司约翰·梅里韦瑟（John Merriweather）发现了莫泽的所作所为，并向所罗门公司的总裁、董事长和首席法律顾问做了汇报，他们都一致认为莫泽的行为是错误的，应该立即向美联储报告，但遗憾的是，没有人采取任何行动。到了5月中旬，莫泽再次做出了同样的行为，这就造成了严重的后果——因为几周前就已经知道这个人行为不端，却没有上报，现在事态更是雪上加霜，公司陷入了巨大的麻烦。",[18,112,113],{},"所以当你发现负面消息时，我的建议是：纠正错误、迅速行动、公开透明、彻底解决。“纠正错误”至关重要——莫泽的行为是确凿无疑的，但“迅速行动”和“公开透明”这两点他们没有做到。负面消息是不可避免的，毕竟我们有33万名员工，我可以保证，现在可能就有几十人在做一些不该做的事。我只希望能尽早发现这些问题，我的下属也能及时上报，一旦情况严重就立即制止。就像一个有33万人口的城市难免会发生一些犯罪事件一样，公司里也总会出现一些问题，关键是一旦发生，要迅速采取行动。",[18,115,116,118],{},[21,117,23],{}," 您应该了解这样一种情况：记者有时会在写完报道之前就已经定好了标题。面对这种情况，您有什么建议？比如，沃尔玛130万名员工中，只有不到6000人拿最低工资，但标题却写成“工会谴责沃尔玛的最低工资政策”，这种情况该如何应对？",[18,120,121,123],{},[21,122,29],{}," 这确实很难处理，因为从作者尤其是标题作者的角度来看，第二个版本的标题更有新闻性。我认为新闻行业最大的问题在于：记者在开始一篇报道时，往往会有一个假设性的观点，他们展开调查是基于这个初步假设，但如果后续发现这个假设不正确或存在重大误导性，就应该放弃它。我一直担心的是，有些记者联系我时，已经确定了自己要写的故事方向，他们找我只是为了寻找能证实自己观点的证据，我把这种行为称为“选择性引用”。他们可能会和我聊45分钟，只为了找到一句能支撑他们报道的引言，而忽略剩下43分钟里我所说的、能让报道更客观全面的内容。这其实是很自然的事——他们在这个假设上投入了时间和精力，可能还会有人出于自身利益，向他们提供大量支持这个假设的材料。当他们已经投入了大量时间，而编辑也知道他们的投入后，尤其是如果这个假设最初就是编辑提出的，那么让他们回去告诉编辑“这个假设是错误的”就变得非常困难。无论是负面报道还是正面报道，一旦形成势头就很难改变，但作为作者，必须要有勇气承认“我的假设不再成立”——这本身并不是什么过错，只是做起来并不容易。",[18,125,126,128],{},[21,127,23],{}," 您提到这几乎像是记者的自尊心在作祟，但同时也存在反商业偏见的问题。我再举一个例子，有这样一个标题：“罚款数十亿美元后，摩根大通董事长戴蒙德仍获加薪”。但事实是，摩根大通确实支付了数十亿美元的罚款，高管们也经历了降薪，后来公司扭亏为盈，薪资才得以恢复。要求标题准确反映事实，这过分吗？",[18,130,131,133],{},[21,132,29],{}," 我当然很担心标题的准确性。记者们通常会说“标题不是我写的”，我偶尔会问他们：“虽然标题不是你写的，但在报道发表之前，你至少应该认可这个标题。我希望你能在报道发表后告诉我，你对这个标题是满意的。”因为标题给人留下的印象，往往是文章内容的十倍之深。所以不要说“标题不是我写的，我没有责任”，优秀的记者会主动关注标题是否准确。顺便说一句，我知道标题确实不是记者写的，但如果他们觉得标题歪曲了自己的报道，就有义务向编辑提出异议。",[18,135,136],{},"回到戴蒙德的例子，摩根大通被处罚的大部分事项，其实都与他们收购的华盛顿互惠银行（WaMu）和贝尔斯登公司有关。当时，美国政府通过各种机构，几乎是恳求他们收购这两家公司。他们这么做在某种程度上是在履行公共服务职责——当然，他们也认为这对公司有利，但归根结底，他们是在完全遵照政府的迫切要求行事。不幸的是，当时的收购合同签订得非常仓促，他们接手了这两家公司过去的“原罪”，而这些事情与摩根大通本身毫无关系。当然，摩根大通也确实因为自身的一些行为受到了处罚，但绝大多数罚款都源于之前收购公司的历史遗留问题。当政府想要征收罚款时，你只能顺从——所罗门公司当时被罚款2.9亿美元，不管金额是1亿美元还是5亿美元，我都无能为力，只能接受，事情就是这样。",[18,138,139],{},"杰米·戴蒙把摩根大通管理得非常出色。在金融危机期间，有杰米·戴蒙掌舵摩根大通，对美国民众来说是非常幸运的。当时收购之所以紧急，是因为他们要收购的公司已经濒临崩溃——可能那些公司自己都没有意识到，但实际上已经无力回天了，而这些都是重要的金融机构。华盛顿互惠银行的危机发生在瓦乔维亚银行、房利美和房地美之后，当时金融界多米诺骨牌接连倒下，华盛顿互惠银行就是另一张即将倒下的大骨牌。联邦存款保险公司（FDIC）本可以接手，但这会带来一系列问题，这时摩根大通挺身而出，联邦存款保险公司也参与其中。但我可以肯定地说，如果当时没有摩根大通，没有杰米·戴蒙的领导，2008年的金融危机将会严重得多。",[18,141,142,144],{},[21,143,23],{}," 还有一个与您更相关的媒体报道案例。有报道称，您对一项薪酬方案的态度发生了巨大转变，但却没有向董事会透露。这是误引还是事实核查失误？",[18,146,147,149],{},[21,148,29],{}," 我确实不同意可口可乐公司在委托代理文件中提到的、计划在四年内授予的期权数量，我认为这个数量过于庞大，所以在投票时选择了弃权，并在投票后宣布了这一决定。我并不想发起一场委托代理权争夺战之类的行动。我认为可口可乐的管理层非常优秀，他们面临着一些棘手的问题，但同时也拥有许多宝贵的资产。我觉得他们都是正直的人，如果能与他们理性沟通，他们或许会做出改变——事实也确实如此。他们对薪酬方案进行了重大调整，将期权授予期限从四年延长至十二年，相当于减少了三分之二的授予规模。薪酬委员会的主席是一位非常出色、非常聪明的人，她完全理解我的顾虑，所以推动了这次改革。这次弃权为可口可乐的股东带来了非常重大的利益。伯克希尔的董事会并没有参与其中，我们只是在事后进行了讨论，并且董事会既认可了我的弃权决定，也支持我向可口可乐董事会提出的建议。",[18,151,152,154],{},[21,153,23],{}," 媒体上有批评声音认为您只是选择了弃权，您的这次弃权可以说是“轰动全球的弃权”，这是否反映出许多记者对董事会运作方式缺乏了解？",[18,156,157,159],{},[21,158,29],{}," 确实如此。你看，通过弃权我们达成了既定目标——我们仍然是可口可乐的最大股东，我们希望继续成为最大股东，并为可口可乐提供帮助，而可口可乐也希望做正确的事。我们和可口可乐之间根本没有本质冲突，事实上，我非常钦佩可口可乐的管理层。我认为他们在薪酬方案上犯了一个错误，而弃权的方式不仅成功推动了方案的重大调整，还避免了不必要的纷争。如果当时大吵大闹，那将是非常愚蠢的做法，不仅不会有任何效果，还会让他们更加固执己见——这是人的天性。虽然那样可能会让媒体觉得更有看点，但却无法实现我们的目标。",[18,161,162],{},"人们，尤其是记者，其实并不真正了解董事会这种人类组织的运作方式。董事会既是社会组织，也承担着商业职责，理解人性在其中的作用至关重要。我曾经在19个董事会任职，我可以告诉你，大多数记者、大多数美国人，甚至很多人，对商业领域的理解都很有限，他们并不清楚董事会内部的动态。让记者深入全国各地的董事会进行观察确实不太现实，但我认为，商业记者首先必须了解会计知识——不懂会计就无法报道商业，这是商业的语言，非常重要。我遇到过很多记者，他们其实并不懂会计，这很遗憾。",[18,164,165],{},"我认识的最优秀的商业记者是卡罗尔·卢米斯（Carol Loomis），她一开始对商业一无所知，但她有强烈的学习意愿，每天都在进步——很少有人能做到这一点。她主动学习会计知识，了解商业的各个方面，最终成为了美国乃至全球最优秀的商业作家。我曾经和《福布斯》杂志的前主编吉姆·迈克尔斯（Jim Michaels）聊起过卡罗尔·卢米斯，我对她的评价是：我见过她在开始一篇报道后，发现自己最初的假设是错误的，但她会根据发现的事实重新撰写报道，而且她非常擅长挖掘事实，工作极其勤奋。这就是为什么她每年写的报道数量不多，但每一篇都能让读者受益匪浅。",[18,167,168,170],{},[21,169,23],{}," 新闻媒体行业已经发生了变化，这与卡罗尔所代表的那种详尽的长篇报道时代形成了鲜明对比。如今，长篇内容已经成为一种“商品”，我想问问，这是否与您对《华盛顿邮报》的态度转变以及对媒体行业整体兴趣的变化有关？",[18,172,173,175],{},[21,174,29],{}," 我不认为这是主要原因。其实是《华盛顿邮报》决定出售报纸业务，这改变了我对该公司的长期投入计划。另外，我也意识到自己总有一天会不再掌管伯克希尔，而对《华盛顿邮报》的投资相对于我们通常对有价证券的投资规模来说，会是一个较小的投入。而且当时有一个非常合理的方案，可以赎回我们的股份，这对双方公司都有利。所以这并不是因为我对报纸新闻业的看法发生了改变——恰恰相反，在《华盛顿邮报》退出报纸业务的同时，我们反而更多地涉足了这一领域。",[18,177,178,180],{},[21,179,23],{}," 如今，新闻传播在某种程度上已经社交化了。看看这些数据，简直堪比伯克希尔的一笔大交易：脸书每月有11亿访客，谷歌每月有9亿访客。现在，新闻是通过“朋友认为有趣的内容”这一滤镜呈现的，每个人都可以成为记者。您认为这会带来什么影响？",[18,182,183,185],{},[21,184,29],{}," 这确实彻底改变了世界。你可以看到，美国的日报数量在减少——不久前还有1700多家，现在大概只剩下1400多家了，而且发行量还会继续下降，收入也会随之减少。印刷版日报的衰落已经持续了一段时间，而且还会继续下去。现在人们通过电脑、手机等设备，可以即时获取信息。我以前要等到第二天才能看到红雀队前一晚的比赛技术统计，了解球员的击球情况，而现在我可以登录ESPN官网，实时查看比赛的每一个细节。世界真的变了，人们已经习惯并期待即时新闻报道，这意味着他们在事实尚未完全核实之前就能获取大量信息，但同时也能更快地得到准确事实。现在人们获取财经新闻的速度，也比以前要等到第二天才能看到股票收盘价快得多。",[18,187,188,190],{},[21,189,23],{}," 这里有一个您可能没注意到的“亮点”：在社交媒体时代，推特成为了新闻机构的重要平台。“沃伦·巴菲特和伯克希尔·哈撒韦”这几个字在140字符的推特中就占了39个字符，而您的合作伙伴查理·芒格通常话很少，大概只需要两三个字符就能代表，他简直是社交媒体时代的宝贵财富啊！",[18,192,193,195],{},[21,194,29],{}," 没错，这是我们沟通策略的关键。我仍然喜欢长篇报道，你甚至可以说10-K报表就是一种非常长的报道，我就是通过阅读这些来获取信息的。",[18,197,198,200],{},[21,199,23],{}," 伯克希尔是如何应对社交媒体的？还是说你们选择忽略它？",[18,202,203,205],{},[21,204,29],{}," 我们基本上是忽略它的。比如我们的官网，20年前建立时是什么样子，现在还是什么样子，它真实地反映了我们公司的本质。我们与股东的沟通比我所知的任何一家公司都要多。我刚刚写完2014年的年度报告，全文有2万字，而且每一个字都是我亲自写的，不是投资者关系部门或公共关系部门代笔，也不是为了推销而写的宣传文件。去年我们在某个方面做得不好，我在报告中也坦诚地谈到了这一点。我写这份报告时，就像是在给我的姐妹们写信一样——假设她们把几乎所有净资产都投在了伯克希尔，她们关心公司，但不会每天关注，所以她们想知道我的想法、公司哪里做得不好、哪里做得好，以及我对世界发展趋势的判断等一系列问题。所以我们希望与人们进行直接、坦诚的沟通。我坚信，如果你能真诚地与人们谈论他们关心的话题——当然，他们肯定关心自己的钱——他们就会愿意倾听。所以我写报告时从不担心字数多少，只担心是否告诉了他们如果我们角色互换，我会想知道的所有信息。",[18,207,208,210],{},[21,209,23],{}," 在某种程度上，您其实预见了社交媒体时代的到来。您之前提到每两年会给管理层发一封一页半的备忘录，而现在社交媒体上流行一个词叫“TLDR”（Too Long, Didn’t Read，意为“太长不看”），您很久以前就意识到内容太长会没人读，所以从某种意义上说，您早就预见了社交媒体的发展趋势？",[18,212,213,215],{},[21,214,29],{}," 或许是吧。但我之所以写得简短，主要是因为我想传达给管理层的核心思想其实只有几个，我希望确保他们不会在第83页之类的地方忽略掉这些关键信息。人们通常无法同时吸收15到20个信息点，但在撰写关于伯克希尔的报道或谈论公司情况时，我希望能提供所有我希望自己作为接收方时能得到的信息。这让我想起了IMG（国际管理集团，全球知名体育娱乐营销公司）的创始人马克·麦科马克（Mark McCormick），他毕业于法学院，而不是哈佛商学院。有一次，他起草了一份合同，他的法律团队反馈回来后，他用蜡笔在文件顶部写道：“这份合同过于法律化，简化成一页给我。”这可是出自一位律师之口啊。",[18,217,218,220],{},[21,219,23],{}," 您觉得现在的沟通中存在“过度法律化”的问题吗？",[18,222,223,225],{},[21,224,29],{}," 在今年的年度报告中，我提到了一件事：我们当年收购国民保险公司（National Indemnity）时，只用了一份一页半的合同，成交价是860万美元。而现在，国民保险公司已经成为全球净资产规模最大的保险公司。我们还曾用一页纸的合同收购过其他公司，但现在已经很难做到这一点了。我还是会把一页纸的合同草案发给律师，说：“把它简化成这样，下周完成。”但时代似乎变了。我仍然倾向于使用一页纸的合同——如果我需要用50页的合同来保护自己，防范与我合作的人，那我总会怀疑，是不是需要51页才能完全保障权益。",[18,227,228,230],{},[21,229,23],{}," 顺便问一句，国民保险公司是您涉足保险业的第一次尝试吧？我听说这是一笔您主动争取的交易，而且您当时可能支付了过高的价格？",[18,232,233,235],{},[21,234,29],{}," 希望卖家也是这么认为的吧！",[18,237,238,240],{},[21,239,23],{}," 在您观察新闻行业的这些年里，谁是您心中最伟大的商业编辑？随着他们的逝去，我们是否失去了一些重要的东西？",[18,242,243,245],{},[21,244,29],{}," 吉姆·迈克尔斯是一位非凡的编辑，他几乎能独立完成整份杂志的出版，每一篇经过他编辑的报道都会变得更出色——他编辑过所有报道，而且都进行了优化。巴尼·基尔戈尔（Barney Kilgore）也是一位杰出的编辑，他提出了一个理念：报纸应该以读者的兴趣为核心，而不是以地理区域为界限。他接手一份日报后说：“我不会因为你住在奥马哈或皮奥里亚就试图让报纸对你有吸引力，我会让它对所有身处商业世界的人都有吸引力。”他打造了一份非常出色的报纸。本·布拉德利（Ben Bradlee）虽然不是商业编辑，但他也是一位伟大的编辑。不过我认为，未来还会出现其他伟大的编辑——成为伟大编辑所需的才能并没有消失，只是他们施展才华的载体可能减少了，但我相信会有新的杰出编辑涌现。",[18,247,248,250],{},[21,249,23],{}," 您认为媒体行业正处于转型期，最终会走向一个理性的状态吗？还是说我们会在《纽约时报》的头版看到电影明星的自拍和猫咪的照片？",[18,252,253,255],{},[21,254,29],{}," 我觉得《纽约时报》的头版不会出现这些内容，但其他地方可能会随处可见。这就是为什么《人物》杂志能成为美国乃至全球最赚钱的杂志之一，而且盈利优势非常明显。《财富》杂志仍然会刊登我喜欢读的内容，但真正畅销的是《人物》杂志。不幸的是，我认为大多数人还是喜欢非常简短的内容，喜欢关注名人轶事，但也总会有人关心深度新闻报道。",[18,257,258,260],{},[21,259,23],{}," 我看到过罗伯特·雷德福（Robert Redford，美国著名演员、导演）的一段采访，他说自己创办圣丹斯电影节（Sundance Film Festival）是因为好莱坞制片厂都在为年轻人拍摄《变形金刚》这类科幻电影，而他想为独立电影创造一个展示的平台。您认为这同样适用于媒体行业吗？会不会有专门致力于优质新闻的机构或出版物蓬勃发展，因为存在足够大的市场？",[18,262,263,265],{},[21,264,29],{}," 会的，肯定会有。优质新闻会在专门的机构或出版物中蓬勃发展，而且确实有足够大的市场支撑。只是这不会是最赚钱的领域——金钱会主导公众看到的内容，但优质新闻的市场依然存在。",[18,267,268,270],{},[21,269,23],{}," 在访谈结束前，您对新闻专业的学生有什么临别建议？",[18,272,273,275],{},[21,274,29],{}," 我认为新闻行业非常棒。如果我这辈子没有从事现在的工作，我会想成为一名记者。事实上，在某种程度上，我觉得自己就是一名记者：我会给自己“分配任务”——比如1973年时，我会问“《华盛顿邮报》公司每股22美元的价格是否值得投资？”；再比如“伯灵顿北方圣达菲铁路公司（BNSF）是否值得我们支付340亿美元收购？”。我会先提出一个假设性的观点，然后去寻找事实依据，而且我会尽量不选择性地使用这些事实。新闻行业非常迷人，我热爱它。",[18,277,278],{},"我的建议是：第一，永远不要让预设的假设主导你的报道；第二，如果你想成为商业记者，就必须学习会计知识，了解商业运作的方式——你可以不断学习，变得越来越聪明；第三，如果你工作做得好，自然会吸引到优质的消息来源。我自己就是一些记者的消息来源，原因很简单，我钦佩他们的工作，而其他记者则无法从我这里得到任何信息。所以，如果你想成为一名伟大的记者，从一开始就要以伟大记者的标准要求自己，这样其他一切自然会水到渠成。此外，你还要对商业充满好奇心——还有很多优秀的商业故事等待被挖掘，其中一些我也略知一二。所以，新闻行业是一个非常好的领域，商业对国家政治和社会生活至关重要，同时也能吸引很多读者的兴趣。而且，由于现在优秀的商业记者并不多，只要你努力，就一定能脱颖而出。",[18,280,281,283],{},[21,282,23],{}," 最后一个问题，您预计今年的年度股东大会会有4万人参加吗？",[18,285,286,288],{},[21,287,29],{}," 我觉得很有可能会超过这个数字。",[18,290,291,293],{},[21,292,23],{}," 这简直就是您自己的社交媒体盛会啊！现在的年度股东大会已经成为媒体关注的焦点，但您依然保持着亲民的风格。您觉得这背后的秘密是不是因为您会弹尤克里里？",[18,295,296,298],{},[21,297,29],{}," 不是的，我觉得是因为我向观众承诺过不会弹尤克里里——这就是他们来参加的原因！",[18,300,301],{},"（全）",{"title":303,"searchDepth":304,"depth":304,"links":305},"",2,[],"访谈与文章",null,"亚利桑那州立大学杰夫·坎宁安教授专访巴菲特，探讨领导力、投资哲学与人生智慧的核心要素。","md",{},true,116,"\u002Fbuffett\u002Finterview\u002Fba-fei-te-2015nian-jie-shou-ya-li-sang-na-zhou-li-da-xue-ling-dao-li-jiao-shou-jie-fu-kan-ning-an-de-zhuan-fang-shi-lu",{"title":5,"description":308},"亚利桑那州立大学雷鸟全球领导力教授杰夫·坎宁安采访沃伦·巴菲特（2015年）｜巴菲特","ba-fei-te-2015nian-jie-shou-ya-li-sang-na-zhou-li-da-xue-ling-dao-li-jiao-shou-jie-fu-kan-ning-an-de-zhuan-fang-shi-lu","buffett\u002Finterview\u002Fba-fei-te-2015nian-jie-shou-ya-li-sang-na-zhou-li-da-xue-ling-dao-li-jiao-shou-jie-fu-kan-ning-an-de-zhuan-fang-shi-lu","80daSTPDX1TKrFer2Xhc2-AKB4FD9fpMGU97R-3N4kc","buffett",[321,326,329,333,336,339,342,346,349,352,356,359,362,366,369,372,376,379,382,386,389,392,396,399,402,406,409,412,416,419,422,426,429,432,436,439,442,446,449,452,456,459,462,466,469,472,476,479,482,486,489,492,496,499,502,506,509,512,516,519,522,526,529,532,536,539,542,546,549,552,556,559,562,566,569,572,576,579,582,586,589,592,596,599,602,606,609,612,616,619,622,626,629,632,636,639,642,646,649,652,656,659,663,666,670,673,677,680,684,687,691,694,698,701,705,708,712,715,719,722,726,729,733,736,740,743,747,750,754,757,761,764,768,771,775,778,782,785,789,792,796,799,803,806,810,813,817,820,824,827,831,834,838,841,845,848,852,855,859,862,866,869,873,876,880,883,887,890,894,897,901,904,908,911,915,918,922,925,929,932,936,939,943,946,950,953,957,960,964,967,971,974,978,981,985,988,992,995,999,1002,1006,1009,1013,1016,1020,1023,1027,1030,1034,1037,1041,1044,1048,1051,1055,1058,1062,1065,1069,1072,1076,1079,1083,1086,1090,1093,1097,1100,1104,1107,1111,1114,1118,1121,1125,1129,1133,1137,1141,1145,1149,1153,1157,1161,1165,1169,1173,1177,1181,1182,1186,1190,1194,1198,1202,1206,1210,1214,1218,1222,1226,1230,1234,1238,1242,1246,1250,1254,1258,1262,1266,1270,1274,1278,1282,1286,1290,1294,1298,1302,1306,1310,1314,1318],{"title":322,"slug":323,"category":324,"order":325},"1956 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巴菲特致合伙人信","1960-ba-fei-te-zhi-he-huo-ren-xin",5,{"title":367,"slug":368,"category":306,"order":365},"巴菲特：1972年巴菲特谈喜诗糖果","ba-fei-te-1972nian-ba-fei-te-tan-xi-shi-tang-guo",{"title":370,"slug":371,"category":332,"order":365},"1998年伯克希尔股东大会","1998nian-bo-ke-xi-er-gu-dong-da-hui",{"title":373,"slug":374,"category":324,"order":375},"1961 巴菲特致合伙人信","1961-ba-fei-te-zhi-he-huo-ren-xin",6,{"title":377,"slug":378,"category":306,"order":375},"巴菲特：1974年击球啊,你这个笨蛋","ba-fei-te-1974nian-ji-qiu-a-ni-zhe-ge-ben-dan",{"title":380,"slug":381,"category":332,"order":375},"1999年伯克希尔股东大会","1999nian-bo-ke-xi-er-gu-dong-da-hui",{"title":383,"slug":384,"category":324,"order":385},"1961年中 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